{"id":10,"date":"2012-03-05T18:15:00","date_gmt":"2012-03-05T18:15:00","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2023-01-08T15:13:06","modified_gmt":"2023-01-08T15:13:06","slug":"belt-drive-ideas","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/cncrouter\/2012\/03\/belt-drive-ideas.html","title":{"rendered":"Belt drive ideas"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I came across this video on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=T9QU3YQe-Sc&amp;feature=player_embedded#!\">YouTube<\/a> of a CNC machine using 2 belts as a sort belt on belt rack, I then went searching for other implementations of this idea and came across an interesting thread on the\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/cnczone.com\/forums\/linear_rotary_motion\/59570-best_belt_drive_ever_if.html\">CNC Zone<\/a>\u00a0forums where several other people are discussing the same idea.<\/p>\n<p>I thought I would also give this idea some exploration as a possible cheaper alternative to R&amp;P and see what I could come up with.<\/p>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/belt-gearbox7.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-59 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/belt-gearbox7-218x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"218\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/belt-gearbox7-218x300.jpg 218w, https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/belt-gearbox7.jpg 377w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 218px) 100vw, 218px\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p>There were a couple of redesigns along the way before I settled on the following design<\/p>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/belt-gearbox2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-61 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/belt-gearbox2-275x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"275\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/belt-gearbox2-275x300.jpg 275w, https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/belt-gearbox2.jpg 535w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-60\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/belt-gearbox1-249x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"249\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/belt-gearbox1-249x300.jpg 249w, https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/belt-gearbox1.jpg 510w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 249px) 100vw, 249px\" \/><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-62\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/belt-gearbox3-300x218.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"218\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/belt-gearbox3-300x218.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/belt-gearbox3.jpg 673w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"><span style=\"text-align: -webkit-auto;\">The design makes use of 1 4:1 reduction gearbox and is adjustable vertically for tension in both drive areas &#8211; stepper to gearbox and gearbox to drive belt, makes use of flanged Oilite bearings and spacers for the driveshaft between the two halves of the gearbox, these are very simple design and very low maintenance and will continue working regardless of how much dust gets on them.<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"><span style=\"text-align: -webkit-auto;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"><span style=\"text-align: -webkit-auto;\">I like bolt through designs as one can apply more tightening force to steel on steel with no worry of thread stripping than you can with steel on aluminium, sure, not all elements of the gearbox are 100% bolt through, though I can continue to aim for that goal.<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"><span style=\"text-align: -webkit-auto;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"><span style=\"text-align: -webkit-auto;\">I may also look to enlarge the axle for the gearbox for greater rigidity.<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"><span style=\"text-align: -webkit-auto;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"><span style=\"text-align: -webkit-auto;\">Deciding between 2 continuous belts or one long belt and a &#8216;tank track&#8217; style loop is another area to think about.<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"><span style=\"text-align: -webkit-auto;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"><span style=\"text-align: -webkit-auto;\">2 long belts is more costly, but has the added advantage of providing a cover for the &#8220;rack&#8221;, although keeping that cover aligned is a disadvantage.<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"><span style=\"text-align: -webkit-auto;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: -webkit-auto;\">Preventing the loop from catching on things is a disadvantage, as is increased wear on that loop, however alignment will be much simpler.<\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"><span style=\"text-align: -webkit-auto;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"><span style=\"text-align: -webkit-auto;\">Integrating it with the rest of the design proved just as interesting:<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/belt-gearbox6.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-64 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/belt-gearbox6-300x222.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"222\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/belt-gearbox6-300x222.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/belt-gearbox6.jpg 749w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/belt-gearbox5.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-63 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/belt-gearbox5-300x275.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"275\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/belt-gearbox5-300x275.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/belt-gearbox5.jpg 607w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/belt-gearbox4.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-65 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/belt-gearbox4-300x221.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"221\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/belt-gearbox4-300x221.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/belt-gearbox4.jpg 695w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\">I like the idea very much as it is potentially much cheaper than a traditional R&amp;P system and has the potential for some very fast rapids 1000ipm+.<\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\">I am still having a few issues with integrating it on the X axis with vertical plates of guide steel.<\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\">Here&#8217;s another version that makes use of the &#8220;tank track&#8221; idea and can potentially be mounted sideways. less adjustabile due to the location of the bearings, but easily changed to wider belts if required, simply by changing the widths of the drive gear and spacers along with the number of skate bearings.<\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/belt-gearbox8.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-66 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/belt-gearbox8-300x272.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"272\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/belt-gearbox8-300x272.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/belt-gearbox8.jpg 713w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\">The top idlers could easily be moved in and also have skate bearings if the friction against the spacer was considered too great, it even uses a standard size belt at 575mm.<\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\">Inboard version of the same thing:<\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/belt-gearbox9.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-67 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/belt-gearbox9-300x279.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"279\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/belt-gearbox9-300x279.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/belt-gearbox9.jpg 673w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\">Cost comparisons with the Rack and pinion version are not really favouring the belt drive system.<\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/R-amp-P.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-68 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/R-amp-P-300x233.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"233\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/R-amp-P-300x233.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blog.hslracing.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2012\/03\/R-amp-P.jpg 636w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both; text-align: left;\"><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I came across this video on YouTube of a CNC machine using 2 belts as a sort belt on belt rack, I then went searching for other implementations of this idea and came across an interesting thread on the\u00a0CNC Zone\u00a0forums where several other people are discussing the same idea. 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